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Join two of the leading educators in manual therapy, bodywork, and massage therapy, as they delve into the most intriguing issues, questions, research, and client conditions that hands-on practitioners face. Stimulate your thinking with imaginative conversations, tips, and interviews related to the somatic arts and sciences.
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Wednesday Sep 08, 2021
47: Getting Over Over-Pronation (Ankle & Foot Function)
Wednesday Sep 08, 2021
Wednesday Sep 08, 2021
In celebration of Til's upcoming "Leg Knee & Foot" online course, he and Whitney geek out on conditions, anatomy, function, and biomechanics of the ankle and foot.
Topics include:
- How the structure of the foot/ankle complex determines function
- Are we over over-pronation yet?
- Plantar fasciitis/fasciosis, bunions, hammertoes, and other things you wouldn’t have thought of as ankle issues.
Episode Outline:
- Structure of the foot/ankle complex
- Medial side deltoid ligament complex
- Lateral side ATF, CF, PTF
- How does structure govern function
- Distal tibiofibular joint & talocrural joint form mortise & tenon
- Primary supporting ligaments
- Mechanics of the region:
- Talocrural motions: dorsiflexion & plantarflexion
- Type I and type II limitations
- Subtalar motions: inversion & eversion
- Pronation and supination (definitions and confusion)
- Phases of gait
- Some common issues/problems
- Valgus and varus angulations (toes and calcaneal region)
- “Overpronation”
- Bunions & hammertoes
- Plantar fasciitis
- Tendon overuse (Achilles tendon etc.)
- Trauma: sprains breaks
- Nerve entrapments mimicking soft-tissue pathology (i.e. tarsal tunnel syndrome, Baxter’s neuropathy, etc.)
Resources and references discussed in this episode:
- Til Luchau’s “Principles: Leg Knee & Foot” live-online course (join live thru mid-September ‘21, or later by recording)
- Trail Guide to Movement: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com
- Whitney Lowe’s site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com
- Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com
Podcast anatomy image from Advanced Myofascial Techniques, Volume 1. Used under license from Primal Pictures.
- Til Luchau’s “Principles: Leg Knee & Foot” live-online course (join live thru mid-September, or later by recording)
- Whitney Lowe’s site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com
- Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Aug 25, 2021
46: To ITB, or Not To ITB? (Iliotibial Band Controversies, Conditions, and Approaches)
Wednesday Aug 25, 2021
Wednesday Aug 25, 2021
Whitney and Til unfold the controversies, compare thoughts, and share approaches for working with the iliotibial band. Download the free handout!
Topics include:
- Little-known facts, well-known myths, and over-heated controversies about the ITB,
- When and why would (or wouldn’t) we work, roll, or massage the ITB (aka the iliotibial tract or fascia lata)?
- Hands-on techniques for some of the most common ITB-related client complaints.
Get the HANDOUT and full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites, plus sign up for Til's upcoming Leg Knee & Foot course!
Resources and references discussed in this episode:
- Baker RL, Fredericson M. Iliotibial Band Syndrome in Runners. Biomechanical Implications and Exercise Interventions. Phys Med Rehabil Clin N Am. 2016;27(1):53-77. doi:10.1016/j.pmr.2015.08.001
- Aderem J, Louw QA. Biomechanical risk factors associated with iliotibial band syndrome in runners: A systematic review Rehabilitation, physical therapy and occupational health. BMC Musculoskelet Disord. 2015;16(1):7-9. doi:10.1186/s12891-015-0808-7
- Fairclough J, Hayashi K, Toumi H, et al. The functional anatomy of the iliotibial band during flexion and extension of the knee: implications for understanding iliotibial band syndrome. J Anat. 2006;208(3):309-316. doi:JOA531 [pii]10.1111/j.1469-7580.2006.00531.x
- Podcast ITB image used under license by the National Library of Medicine Visible Human Project. Arrows show location of ITB.
- Til Luchau’s “Principles: Leg Knee & Foot” live-online course (join live thru mid-September, or later by recording)
- Download this episodes free handout for full references and more
- Whitney Lowe’s site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com
- Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Aug 11, 2021
45: Fascia in Sport & Movement (with Robert Schleip)
Wednesday Aug 11, 2021
Wednesday Aug 11, 2021
Til Luchau & Whitney Lowe talk with researcher and Robert Schleip about fascia, movement, and research updates in the newly released second edition of Fascia in Sport and Movement, co-edited by Jan Wilke.
Topics include:
- Should bodywork cost half of what movement therapy costs? {joke!}
- Is the issue fascial stiffness, or fascial shearing?
- What does fascias' extensive sensory innervation mean for manual therapists?
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
Resources and references discussed in this episode:
- Book: Fascia in Sport & Movement at Handspring (Get 15% off with coupon code TTP)
- fasciaresearch.de
- somatics.de
- Fascia Research Society
- Whitney Lowe’s site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com
- Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Jul 28, 2021
44: Table Lessons (with Doug Nelson)
Wednesday Jul 28, 2021
Wednesday Jul 28, 2021
Whitney talks to Doug Nelson about the challenges and learning experiences of a great massage career spanning over four decades.
Topics include:
- What keeps you going after all this time?
- What are some of the most fascinating lessons your clients have provided for you?
- How do we all learn to be humble in the face of our own fallibility in the clinic and the classroom?
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
Resources and references discussed in this episode:
- Doug's Book: Table Lessons
- NMT Midwest
- Massage Therapy Foundation
- Whitney Lowe’s site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com
- Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
- Healwell: save 10% Healwell courses when you join the Healwell Community at community.healwell.org
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Jul 14, 2021
43: Trauma, MDMA Psychotherapy, and the Body (with Marcela Ot'alora G.)
Wednesday Jul 14, 2021
Wednesday Jul 14, 2021
Til Luchau talks about trauma, psychedelic psychotherapy, and the body, with Marcela Ot'alora G., the principal investigator in a very promising FDA-approved study into MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD.
Topics include:
- How does trauma relate to bodywork, and how does MDMA therapy help with trauma?
- How is psychedelic therapy different from just taking psychedelics?
- What can we learn from your MDMA/PTSD study that can help us be more effective as massage and manual therapy practitioners?
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
Resources and references discussed in this episode:
- Marcela Ot'alora’s Tim Ferriss Podcast interview
- About MAPS.org (and training as an MDMA psychotherapist)
- About the MDMA/PTSD Study
- Apply to be a subject in the MDMA/PTSD clinical trials
- Whitney Lowe’s site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com
- Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)